As part of our putting the podcast on the road series we recorded this episode at the podcast studio of Terry Greene, Senior E-Learning Designer at Trent University Online in Peterborough, Ontario. Terry is host of Gettin’ Air “The Open Pedagogy Podcast” that each week features a conversation with practitioners of “technology-enabled and open learning practices in Post-Secondary Education.”
Terry describes himself as an “Enthusiast for digital, open pedagogy.” In addition to his work at Trent University, he is teaching an Instructional Design course at Lambton College.
The Gettin’ Air show was an inspiration for OEG Voices and Terry has been part of the OE Global circle, having earned a 2019 OE Award for Excellence for his Open Learning Patchbook projects and also a previous presenter at OE Global conferences. I had collaborated with Terry on the eCampusOntario Ontario Extend (for faculty) which was an impetus for Liberated Learners (“how to learn with style”) a multi institution, student led project the Terry organized. We will talk much about this fantastic project in the show.
Mainly this was a chance to turn the microphone tables on terry and interview him on his own show. This episode will also appear soon as a Gettin’ Air episode.
Let’s get some air with Terry. And we were joined by his adorable daughter who herself attended the OEGlobal19 conference in Milan.
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Web Sites Links and Quotes for Episode 41
“[Course building at Trent University] is the opportunity for many people to work on them and gave a lot of people the chance to taste the creation of open educational resources. Then we are proud of it, we promote it in webinars. Every time we build a course we are trying to infuse the use of OER that are out there.”Terry Greene on his work at Trent Online
- Learning Nuggets (Terry Greene’s Blog)
- Gettin’ Air Podcast
- The theme song “Gettin’ Air” by Calgary band Chixdigit
- VoiceEd Radio
- Opportunity to review pre-release versions of books:
- Martin Weller’s Metaphors of Ed Tech (Gettin’ Air episode)
- Hannah McGregor’s A Sentimental Education (Gettin’ Air episode)
- Audrey Watters’ Teaching Machines (Gettin’ Air episode)
“For anyone listening I think it’s great, I hope they get to know all these people, take these great ideas and run with them, and hopefully get some inspiration from the work all these people are doing”Terry Greene on Gettin’ Air
- The Liberated Learner Project
- Wicked Problems (“the wicked problems that learners face every day”)
- Liberated Learner Chill Beats (music to study by created by students at Seneca College)
Ontario Extend was designed for empowering educators to teach in modern digital age. Lena Patterson, then project director at eCampusOntario always said we should do this for students some day.. This was one of the projects we got to do this under an eCampusOntario grant, with involvement from seven universities– it is a mirror image of Extend. Because the original was ‘by educators for educators’ we wanted to re-create that having it ‘by learners for learners.’ We got to hire students as co-designers. We used Wicked Problem to allow students to identify the content to be included in the modules all that help students to become more independent online learners.Terry Greene on the Liberated Learner Project
- The Open Patchbooks (2019 OE Award For Excellence in Open Pedagogy)
- Institute for Emerging Leadership in Online Learning (Online Learning Consortium)
- The SUNY Online Course Quality Review Rubric (OSCQR)
“I hope we can build real robust online options that will add to the flexibility of the experience… I hope she will have the choice to do it in a high quality environment in person or off or both, and where there’s less of a stigma about online being lower quality.”Terry Greene on what he hopes his daughter’s university experience will be like.
Since Terry’s theme song is licensed for use only on VoiceEd radio, we found our own open licensed music for this episode in the Free Music Archive, a track called
Free As Air [Original mix] by mildtape & Ebsa licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives (aka Music Sharing) 3.0 International License.
The Gettin’ Air logo was created by Bryan Mathers / Visual Thinkery licensed likely CC BY-NC and hopefully used with permission by Terry Greene.
The introduction was created with the OEG Voices Mixer featuring voices of Gardner C, Terry G, Maren D, Lena P, Nicole N, Judith S, Ajita D, Jöran M-M, Werner W, Lori-Beth L, and Clint L (learn how to add your voice to the mix).
This is the place to ask questions directly to @greeneterry about his ideas on open pedagogy, technology enabled learning. Or more specifically, maybe ask about the impact of the Liberated Learners project.
Do you have a favorite Gettin’ Air episode? Or maybe you have not listened yet?
Start the conversations with Terry right here.
My quick answer on a favourite episode: David Wiley | voicEd. I keep using it as a reference because it provided deep insight on a key part of the movement’s history, including the distinction between OEG (from OCW) and the OE Conf (from Wiley’s stint at USU).
As for questions to Terry… Hm…
I’m (not-so-secretly) hoping that Greene would share valuable insight on the overall OE scene (especially when it goes beyond OER) and maybe about eventually building something of a Community of Practice.
If Laura Hilliger or Doug Belshaw were to conduct an interview on their own podcast, I’d expect an answer to lead to a working “theory of change” that we could use, together.
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(We could also think through the lifecycle of our groups, networks, and “communities”.)
Hi Alex! Wow that is a good, big question. I am posting this quick response to buy myself some time to ponder a response. I will ponder, and I will return to this!
“How MIght We expand the sphere of agency for all of these people you’ve interviewed, over the years?”
I guess I think that, while my podcast hopefully serves the OE community, it is not a community or network itself. But it could serve community better by helping to loop more people into an ongoing conversation space in some way? Certainly open to ideas. This space here that Alan and OE Global have built is much more suited to ongoing conversation and network building. I am currently participating in OLC’s IELOL Global program in which we are meant to collaborate on a “change” project. My initial thought on what to do have been in the realm of building an easy to enter community of practice for the same kinds of things we are always talking about on Gettin’ Air. I hadn’t thought of leveraging my own podcast to that end but maybe there is something there.
Useful and insightful. Thanks!
As you surmised, my HMW question was meant to generate something actionable in the context of work done @cogdog et al. to “mobilize” people in this CoP. Which is exactly what you’re providing.
There’s a sense of “usual suspects” in our scene. Especially among Anglophones in the United States and Canada (mostly BC and ON). Your guestlist expands on that, of course. And the listenership likely goes beyond that core crowd who are participants in Twitter DM threads. (Or Mastodon, for that matter.)
So… Let’s do this. Let’s leverage Gettin’ Air and this here group platform to implement meaningful changes towards openness in learning & teaching!
“‘Letting Go’, United States, New York, Montauk” by WanderingtheWorld (www.ChrisFord.com) is licensed under CC BY-NC 2.0.
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